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2019 PRE SEA Games Trials Day 2 Reports : The Hokey Pokey strikes

Hokett Delos Santos who turns 17 tomorrow. Improved his PB from 4.50 to 4.80 at the Pre-SEA Games. Finishing with the bronze behind two very experienced Thai’s.

Delos Santos who is the 2019 SEA Youth Champion, is coached by Emerson Obiena the father of Asian Champion Ernest Obiena – EJ Obiena. EJ wasn’t able to make Pre-SEA Games due to training in Italy.

Hokett Delos Santos 4.80m leap tied the best-ever mark by a 17-year-old Filipino which he now shares with Fil-Heritage athlete Paris Pijuan who leaped 4.80m also in 2013. He is ahead of EJ Obiena at the same age.
But he will have the whole of 2020 to improve on that mark.

EJ jumped 4.95m as an 18-year-old, and 5.21m as a 19-year-old which is the Phi Junior Record.


2019 PRE SEA GAMES TRIALS: Palabrica back in the Medal Hunt at SEA Games PRE-SEA Games Clark Women’s Javelin

Evalyn Palabrica the 2017 SEA Games Bronze medalist has leapfrogged back from #7 in the SEA Rankings to #3 in the SEA Rankings. Further improving her PB from 48.62m (25 May, 2019 Taipei Open) to 50.80m.

SEA Games Champion Natta Nachan of Thailand took Gold with 53 meters. Nachan had thrown 56.01m to get the bronze at the Asian Championships.

Jariya Wichadit also of Thailand landed bronze with a 49-meter throw.

The Performance places Evalyn #3 on the all-time list passing 3 x SEA Games Champion (1977, 1979, 1981) Erlinda Lavandia. at 25, just less than 3 meters away from the record of Geralyn Amandoron

1 53.75m Gerlayn Amandoran 78 1f National Open Manila 18.05.2001
2 52.34m Rosie Villarito 23.9.79 1 Weekly Relays Pasig 15.8.2009
3 50.81m Evalyn Palabrica 22.07.94 1 Pre-SEA Games Clark 27 October 19
4 49.94m Erlinda Lavandia 52 Manila 1986

Palabrica who used to hold the Junior Record in the Javelin set when she won her first international meet the Gold at the 2012 ASG. She held the Junior record for 5 years until it was broken by Fil-Heritage athlete Cerah Moren (45.74m) the current holder.

SEA Rankings Top 10

1 Natta Nachan 6-Apr-90 THA 56.01m
2 Supinsira Khma-Oi THA 51.53m
3 Evalyn Palabrica 1994 PHI 50.80m
4 Azina Nurkamilla Intan INA 50.46m
5 Lo Thi Hoang VIE 50.16m
6 Jariya Wichaidit 8-Mar-96 THA 49.84m
7 Siti Nazirah Napis 28-Mar-97 INA 49.60m
8 Cerah Moren PHI 48.11m
9 Dang Thi Trang VIE 46.11m
10 Intan Bahatir 98 INA 46.10m

2019 PRE SEA GAMES TRIALS  : Day 1 Reports

Reported before it was 2017 SEA Games Champion Andrian it was actually there Top Junior Edwin Haloman (19) who improved his PB to 51.35 to win the 400 Hurdles at the 2019 PRE SEA Games at Clark. Ahead of Francis Medina (51.66) of the Philippines. Haloman improves his season-best from 52.11 to 51.28. And his PB from 2018 from 51.61 to 51.28.

The time ranks for 2019 Haloman behind Eric Cray (50.34) of the Philippines, Quach of Vietnam (50.71), and Hoang of Vietnam (51.20). Medina had run 51.52 earlier in the year in Singapore.

 


2019 PRE SEA GAMES TRIALS UPDATES

A lot of athletes will not join as they are training overseas.

A more accurate write up from Philstar than the misleading information from tempo.ph the other day.

Of the Fil-Heritage athletes, only Knott and Richardson twins will compete.

Ernest Obiena – EJ Obiena contrary to what tempo said is in Italy, so he will not be teleporting to Clark.

A 67-man strong contingent carries the fight for the Filipinos against rivals from Thailand (31), Singapore (15), Malaysia (14), Vietnam (10), Indonesia (seven) and Brunei (four)

Vietnam Team

1/ Trần Đình Sơn – 400m, TS 4x400m
2/ Trần Nhật Hoàng – 400m, TS 4x400m
3/ Phan Khắc Hoàng – 400m, TS 4x400m
4/ Nguyễn Đức Sơn – 400m, TS 4x400m
5/ Nguyễn Thị Hằng – 400m
7/ Trần Thị Yến Hoa – 100m rào
8/ Phạm Thị Diễm – Nhảy cao
9/ Vũ Thị Ngọc Hà – Nhảy 3 bước
the athletes join Pre SEA Games meet

2019 PRE SEA GAMES TRIALS  will be held at New Clark City from October 26-27

Pre SEA Games


 

Methodology SEA Games Men’s 1500m – The Rightful Claimant

Hello, all its time again for yet another difficult selection issue.  First, let’s note that it’s October 22 and while all other NSAs have made public there lists for SEA Games selections. The PATAFA is yet to make public there lineup. Maybe they are waiting until there October 26-27 Pre-SEA Games Trial, maybe they are waiting the night before the SEA Games who the heck knows?. In fact, I had even requested the list from sources and was told they were not to supply it.

We are going to examine the Men’s 1500m selection for SEA Games. I will try and look at this as objectively as possible from various angles. And a word of warning I do not always say what people want to hear so suggest you stop reading as you may or may not like what you’re about to read. 

Word is the PATAFA that has selected Mariano Masano and Fil-Heritage athlete Said Guermali (1500-m) in this article (Oct 18, Manila Standard) and confirmed from various sources. As no list has come out this is the best possible source.

Having been assisting with selection for 2013 SEA Games and 2015 SEA Games Athletics. And main selection for the 2014 ASEAN School Games, as well as various other domestic teams such as Airforce, etc. Selection is quite often a difficult thing. It’s even more difficult when ‘No clear consistent selection methodology is put in place’. And as the Philippines is the host that seems to be the case in 2019 SEA Games. With a reluctance to share the list with the public.

 

Guarte Leaves the Sport

But like I said we will stick with the facts we know. The first thing to note is that this saga unfolded when National Record Holder, and 7x SEA Games Silver medalist and current 1500 Bronze medalist Mervin Guarte who timed 3:53.68 last SEA Games was removed from the payroll and the national team despite having not been beaten at the Nationals. Mervin left the sport of athletics (due to so-called alleged attitude problems) after being in the national team for 8 years to take his chances at a new sport.

Mervin is now very happy and looks after in his new sport Obstacle Course Racing. Pinoyathletics wishes Mervin who we have known for many many years all the best in finding gold in his new sport.

 

Nobody Hits the SEA Bronze Mark of 2017

With Guarte out everyone else duaed it up for the SEA Games 1500m 2 slots. However, lets not the bronze mark of 2017 was 3:53.68 (by Guarte). PATAFA Auditor and Training Director Jeanette Obiena did state the bronze medal will be the qualifier (4:48 into the video).

The fact that nobody hits the bronze prior to SEA Games and that a Fil-Heritage athlete gets selected in the event really shows the decline of the national middle distance program these last few years.

But prior to that on Sept 2 there was another media report that PATAFA was eyeing 178!!! Athletes to SEA Games.

Anyway if we go on that logic why send anyone at all in 1500??? Let’s look at the other nations 2x SEA Games Champion Duong Van Thai of Vietnam clocked 3:50.65 on Sept 19 in Ho Chi Minh. So far this year. 

 

2 Methodologies???

Mariano Masano

Lets look at the results for the year 2019 for Filipino Athletes. On September 1 during what was initially supposed to be the final time trial at New Clark City. Before the PATAFA extended the deadline as they still couldnt make up there mind who to finalize in there team.  

On September 1. Fil-Heritage athlete Said Guermali won in 3:59.08, in which can be viewed as more of a tactical race beating Mariano Masano 3:59.76 and Sonny Wagdos 4:00.09. Guermali Personal best time of 3:54.26 from 2016. Assuming that was the final trial. Guermali as per IAAF site and TFRSS had no 800 after returnign to the United States in prep for SEA Games. 

On September 22. Masano 3:55.83, Wagdos 3:55.86 and Edwin Giron Jr. 3:55.93 had a close 3 way race. With Masano and Giron breaking there personal best times.


Methodolgy #1 Coaches Point of View Guermali was tactically better

Said Guermali
Said Guermali

Several coaches both national and non-national agreed with the PATAFA President’s decision about the potential of Guermali. Having coached before I can say I agree and see the logic in this. The tall Middle Distance runner pretty much jogged 3:59 effortlessly and if the race had been faster he would have run faster. How good is Guermali id say he is probably the only chance of the bunch to win a medal at SEA Games if he goes full blast. But I do not think he can get to the Gold level with DVT having run 3:50 just a month ago.

The other thing to add in here is even though he ran in a slower tactical race on Sept 1 which was what he understood as the final trial date as it was earlier announced. Guermali beat Masano and Wagdos and Giron. Therefore based on who has beaten who leading up to the final selection which ended up being October 18?

Guermali > Masano > Wagdos > Giron

So, in that case, PATAFA did make the right decision selection Guermali and Masano. Despite our differences, we can see the reasonability in PATAFA President and coaches making this choice.


Methodology #2 – Based on Times

Methdology SEA Games Mens 1500m
Sonny Wagdos

Now as well as having served as a grass-root coach. As a selector, I would have to employ an unbiased opinion based on data as a statistician. Aswell every coach feels there athlete is a potential. If we look at performances based on time.  

  1. Masano 3:55.83 (PB)
  2. Wagdos 3:55.86
  3. Giron 3:55.83 (PB)
  4. Guermali 3:59.06
Methdology SEA Games Mens 1500m
2018 Asian Junior 800 Finalist Edwin Giron Jr.

With this in mind, Masano and Wagdos are the strongest candidates. As we can argue Guermali may or may not have run faster if they all ran faster. But that would just be speculating. 

Regardless we have presented both points of view for the athletic community and the public’s opinion.

So we come up with this formulae for selection 1500m = Masano + Guermali or Wagdos – Giron.

This would have been a much easier process if PATAFA had actually made the list Public to lessen uncertainty over selection. In the future, it is better to have a clear Methodology that is kept to rather than deviating from the original methodology.


2015 SEA Games Selection Issues

On a side note, it was again a very difficult predicament in 2015 Selection for the Men’s 1500. When in the 2013 SEA Games the bronze was a ridiculously low 3:58.37. Mervin Guarte getting the nod as the top guy, with Roldan Verano ranked 2nd in 3:55, Maulas and Rudyfer both having ran 3:57 and Sonny Wagdos had ran 3:55.72 but in the unsanctioned PRISAA Meet.

2015 Selection SEA Bronze 3:58.37 (selection Period 2013 SEA Games until 2015)

  1. Mervin Guarte 3:55.10
  2. Roldan Verano 3.55.3
  3. Sony Wagdos 3:55.72 (PRISAA Unsanctioned)
  4. Rudyfer Hernandez 3:57.8
  5. Wenlie Maulas 3:58.30.

Guarte and Verano were selected. But Verano later had to withdraw due to PLDT his work not allowing him time off. Mervin went onto win the Silver at the 2015 SEA Games in Singapore in 3:48.06 behind his long time nemesis Duong Van Thai of Vietnam.



 

 

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Andrew was elected Vice President of the Association of Track and Field Statisticians in 2020 after being a member for 7 years.

He has worked as a PSC Consultant and Research Assistant from 2013-2015, Consultant, and Sprint Coach at Zamboanga Sports Academy from 2015-2017.

Current editor and chief of Pinoyathletics.info, and has recently done consultancy work for Ayala Corp evaluating the Track and Field Program.

Coaches Sprints, Middle and Jump events he is working towards his Level 3 Athletics Australia Coaching Certification in Sprints and Hurdles.

He can be contacted on [email protected]

You can find more information on Coaching here
https://www.pinoyathletics.info/coaching-2/

By Andrew Pirie

Andrew was elected Vice President of the Association of Track and Field Statisticians in 2020 after being a member for 7 years. He has worked as a PSC Consultant and Research Assistant from 2013-2015, Consultant, and Sprint Coach at Zamboanga Sports Academy from 2015-2017. Current editor and chief of Pinoyathletics.info, and has recently done consultancy work for Ayala Corp evaluating the Track and Field Program. Coaches Sprints, Middle and Jump events he is working towards his Level 3 Athletics Australia Coaching Certification in Sprints and Hurdles. He can be contacted on [email protected] You can find more information on Coaching here https://www.pinoyathletics.info/coaching-2/

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